Hello everybody. Welcome. Thank you so much for joining today. Today we are with Eric Weeks, the chair of the photo photography and video department at Pcad and we are going to talk a little bit about the program and what it entails, some student experiences and all of that fun stuff. If you do have any questions during this session, please feel free to use the chat area which is located on the right hand side of your screen at any time. If you have a question, feel free to type it in there we will be bringing.
Any questions up at the end during the Q&A, but for now I will hand it over to Eric to introduce himself and get started. Go ahead, Eric.
Thank you, Julianne. Hi, everyone asked, Julia said. My name is Eric Weeks and I'm the chair of the photography and video department and I want to show you a photograph here. The department is a very tight knit group and one of the things that makes coming to PC, A&D and our photography and video department so amazing is that.
There's a really, really great faculty to student ratio. And so not only do you have small class sizes, but you also get to know your different professors. For for I get to teach in all four years. So I get to meet students that are in the foundation program. And then I have a course that I teach as sophomores and juniors and seniors. And so I get to really watch everybody grow up and and grow.
And and become successful. And it's such a wonderful experience for me. So a little bit about me, I actually traveled down here from New York City, and I'm here four days a week and to teach and run the department. And then I go back up to New York. And I do that because one, my wife lives there most of the time. She comes down to Lancaster a lot, but also because I'm still practicing professional photographer.
And so I do different jobs in New York when I'm there. A lot of it now is custom printing for other artists. And so I work with other artists and I I make their prints that end up in museums and galleries, and it's a wonderful collaboration. And so I bring this up not to go on to talk so much about myself really, but to go and point out that I really believe that, that my time, it's valuable to come down here. I like coming down here because of what?
We do. I think that it's wonderful that students, they get out of the photography and video department here, they get jobs in the field. There are jobs in this region. There are are lots of photography jobs.
There there are statistics that came out recently that over the next decade up to 2030, the jobs for photography will grow by 17% and for videography, which we also teach here in photography and video department, 33%. And so it's a lot of opportunity. So I'm going to walk through and show you a bunch of photographs and and talk about some of the classes that we have in that department. And so the foundation, here you are.
Taking courses with students and all the other majors and also taking a couple that are very specifically about photography. One is digital imaging where you're working with the DSLR and you're working with Photoshop and Lightroom, learning how to print, learning how to work files, etcetera. And then the other is camera based observation, which is a film based analog class and that's a class that I teach. And so you come to the class and we have all of this.
We have a bunch of 35 millimeter cameras, and you get to sign one out for the entire semester, and you learn how to shoot film and process it and make prints in the darkroom. And so this really feeds into what you end up doing with the digital camera. And so these are some examples from that class. You also make a film, and so there's a a little camera called a lomo Kino, and you put it.
Roll of 35 millimeter film and you hand crank the 35 millimeter film and I'm going to show you this short little film that one of the students made.
And so Austin shot this film and developed the film and then scanned each of the images and then in Adobe premiere, he put them together and then added a soundtrack separately. And this is what you can get. So it it's a great lesson in that.
All film, all video is just a number of still images in succession and so doing that and actually working with each single frame is something that.
Julya Nichols
03:05:21 PM
Photography & Video @ PCA&D: https://pcad.edu/degrees/photography-video/
It's really just kind of drives home some very important lessons. And so I'm already up to the software you and now you're in the major when you're in the software year. And so there are a lot more photography courses. You're still taking liberal arts courses and you take general elective courses as well, but these are required courses. And so the two digital photo courses are.
Building on what you learned in digital imaging and the foundation year and you're learning higher ends compositing and and file manipulation and printing. And so those are.
Called digital photo windows and mirrors. Because of this, Windows is one way of using photography where you're looking out into the world as if you're looking out through a window and you want to show other people through your photographs what you've seen and what you care about. And so that's one philosophical way of using the medium while mirrors is you hold the mirror up to yourself and you're making images that are about who you are.
And what you want to share and say about your own identity and your own person and your place in life. And so I'll go off a little bit here. We teach all of this technical stuff. We have these cameras. We teach a bunch of different software. You have three different film classes, but that's only part of the education in the department. You know, everybody runs around with their cell phone and they make photographs and and kind of think, oh, I know how to make.
Photographs, well photography is the most ubiquitous medium.
For communication in the world, what does that mean? That means that everybody is using it and it's really powerful. And so in this department we talk about that. We talk about how to build images that communicate, because that's what we're doing and it's not, it's not simple and it's not technique. Technique is important, but it's a means to an end where you have something to say. And so that's the core of what the photography and video department is. It's about.
Building up your own opinion, your ability to voice your opinion and care about things that are happening out in the world and then make work that communicates those opinions. And so we have a lot of what we do is we have critiques.
And so students make work and then we hang up the work and everybody talks about it and I'll get, I'll, I'll talk about that more in a little bit. But that's one way. If you are looking at a classmates work and you realized that, well that's not communicating what that that student says they wanted to communicate. You can right away analyze that image and then verbally talk to the person and the group and say, well this is what I think.
And that is such a powerful, powerful tool as you move forward in life as to being able to to look at something, analyze it, form your opinion and communicate your opinion. And you can take that and and and conquer the world. Really, I'm serious. Communication is what it's all about. But I digress. I do that often.
And reduction to video you start in.
Learning video photo dialogues is contemporary history and issues and you learn about different ways that people have used photographs and then you emulate those different ways. And so it's not a chronological.
History class. It's a thematic history class, and it's really important to know what other people have done. And that way when you know all the different ways that people have used it, you can start making your own informed decisions about how you want to use the medium.
Photo techniques is the second film based class and in that class you take out a medium format camera for this semester which is the larger negative and you process color film and you print color film in the darkroom into color prints. And so that really teaches you a lot about the color theory that goes into photography and.
That another just like really strong.
Way to learn about photography that isn't offered that much now. In other colleges it's kind of a little bit more difficult to maintain.
I'm very proud that that we have the the machines, the tools that that students can can use to do that. So a lot of photographers out there are still using film, by the way.
Fundamentals of lighting and advanced lighting is both wonderful classes where you really learn how to work in both the studio and also on location with with different lighting tools and we have a lot of lighting.
Different types of light. There are strobes that when you press the shutter the flash goes off. There are continuous lights, one is LED and another is ink and nessen. It's tungsten based and they give different quality.
Light and you learn all about that. And we have some of those lights can travel and you can take them out. We have other.
Other equipment that can go out too. And so we have some high end digital cameras. We have a couple of Hasselblad medium format cameras that cost about $50,000 brand new. And you get to be able to use those and learn how to use them in a studio where they're tethered to a computer. So you can actually use the computer to to press the shutter and the image immediately comes up in a software called capture one, which is the way that studio photographers.
Work, and that way you have the image right there on a computer much larger than on a on a screen, on the camera, and you might have the art director standing right next to to you and commenting and making changes and things like that. So you learned how to do that in our in our studio classes.
And so this is a photogram. This is back into the darkroom where it's like one of the earliest ways that photographs were made, and you just take a light sensitive piece of paper and place some objects on and expose it to light, and you can do all kinds of wonderful things with it.
Here's a photograph where there is a light source inside of the car, and so it looks and naturalistic, but is actually manipulated in order to look that way.
In the studio photograph.
Really interesting this color green. Where's that coming from?
And then we're out of the studio.
But still paying attention to light.
And then we're back in the studio again.
Video that a junior as a sophomore.
These were the last memories of you.
Police started questioning me about you.
Ask if you had heard anyone.
So that video, I showed that because it's.
Kind of beautiful and amazing that and it goes longer than that, but it's that's the all the visuals is the red and blue flashing and everybody can and can imagine, you know, just those basic symbols of the red and blue flashing. Imagine a whole visual scenario that is not necessarily shown in the video and that's a really interesting idea.
We're in the junior year now. Advanced Digital Photo is a class where you're doing a number of things. You're working on a project the entire semester in order to make a book, and you are also really learning about how to use different types of photographic paper to go and make your photographs look different. One of the ways that that you can find your own voice, your own asthetics, and make your work look specifically that it came from you.
There's a number of different ways to do that, and that includes different types of tools that you use, but it also includes output and the different choices that the artist makes when they're outputting. And so you learn that you continue to work on video and learn more and more about that. And we have a lots of sound equipment that you learn as well when learning video. So we have what are called shotgun mics and and.
Handheld mikes that are really important to know how to use. I often get emails and phone calls from the community looking for photographers and and a lot of them are looking for video. There's a lot of work out there for video.
Large format that is a class that you end up making negatives that are 4 by 5 inches and I wish that I had brought to my office here a four by 5 camera that I could show you, but you've probably all seen photographers use a camera sitting on a tripod and they take a cloth hood and they put it over their head. That's how you use a A view camera. It's a the earliest type of camera that was ever used.
But a lot of people are still using him, and the reason why is because you get a very large negative.
Some people go into the darkroom and print that large negative, while others scan it. And if you scan a negative that's that large, you get a. You can get a very, very high resolution file. And so some of the work I told you about printing, I can print up to 60 by 90 inches, and a lot of that is because the file can can go that that large.
Advanced color is both a little bit of analog and digital and more color theory. Thinking about how color works and how it communicates. Medium form and concept is one of the several courses that are shared with fine art students. And so in that course, medium forming concept, it really is asking, you've already learned a lot about photography. It's asking for you to kind of think outside of your normal way of operating and how.
Else can you use all of your knowledge and use incorporate other mediums?
In order to communicate your ideas. And so that's a really interesting class. And then starting in your junior year, you have professional practices. There's one in the junior, excuse me, and one in the senior. And in the junior year you are also with Fine Arts student and you are learning how to make a excellent CV curriculum at the time, cover letter and a website. And we're not coding websites anymore, we use platforms.
Where you can drop, but we're talking about the design still of them, and so you're ready by the end of that class to go out and start putting yourself out into the world. And so before the pandemic, one of the one of the reasons for that class was to make sure that everybody procures an internship during the summer between their junior and senior year, and because of the pandemic we no longer make that a requirement, but we definitely support students that are looking for.
Internships and and get you out into the real world. So I'm doing something that you never supposed to do. Sit on one slide for too long during a talk, but I couldn't go to the next one because it's a video.
And takes a couple of minutes seconds. There we go. And so this is called a.
And so there are different narratives happening in these different different scenes that.
Have connections to each other. And so it's a way to kind of layer information on top. And so, So what do you pay attention to? What are the relationships? There's a a very famous film called Timecode where a whole story is told.
And we have an advanced studio photograph and here's the fashion photograph that was made on the runways in New York City during Fashion Week. This student graduated a year ago and works for Saks 5th Ave now and it's interesting, this region of Pennsylvania has a lot of photography, a lot of internationally based photography happening. So, so there is a studio that's half an hour.
Drive away from here that does all of sex with Ave work, and we have a few former students working there as photographers. And there are these closer studios that are doing all kinds of studio work where they're building big sets and they'll build a kitchen and then put a Samsung dishwasher in it. And so there's a lot of different steps to doing that type of work, from the photography to the lighting to the digital work.
Afterwards and that's some of the places that our students go to other jobs that we have students, some are are freelance photographers that are doing things like weddings and.
They have their own business. They'll do event photography and portraiture. We have a graduate who photographs and moved to Phoenix, AZ and photographs for both an NBA and WNBA teams for SAGA for for for professional sports. And so that's something that that you know.
With questions, I'm always asked questions what makes the photography video department different than other places? And I think one of the core differences is that we don't have a rule that this is the best way to use photography. A lot of schools are like you have to make art or you have to only make commercial with Harvey. And what we do here is we listen to students and we try to help them grow and make decisions about.
Julya Nichols
03:20:53 PM
PCA&D Alumni Blog: https://pcad.edu/pcad-news/
What what do I want to do when I get out? And then we try to go and help. And so that could be, you know, editorial photography or advertising photography. It could be fine art and everything that's in between there. There's all types of different ways to use photography in it and it's all supported.
This is a self-portrait by a man named Kareem and he's one of the people that works at the the studio that photographs kitchens. But he became a really good digital artist and being able to use the software and he took that and he loves his work and makes very, very good work. So there's different ways to go about. Some people like to have a full time job and know, you know, how much they get paid every week and other people.
Love the opportunity to to do different things and have different days each week and and so that's all a possibility. This is an installation that was made by a student in the medium forming concept class that I mentioned where it's a different way still using photography but now the installation is the the artwork and very important to way he wanted to communicate.
Kind of different type of fashion photographs, just fishnet stockings and there's fish in there.
And then we have some some.
Here's a photograph that a student made while in school here and it's very big in on hockey and field hockey and really learned a lot and did a lot of work.
To become a better, better sports photographer. This photograph is a composite and so the photographer here, Trey, he composed himself there. This is also Trey and this is also Trey. So that's a technique that is taught. And here's a couple of examples of websites I students.
And here's a very limited list of some of the.
Places where people have interned, students have interned and that could be for a specific photographer or it could be a in a business, it could be a museum or a gallery. There's that again, is is your choice, but you've already been in school for a few years and you kind of have an idea of like what what makes you happy and what you want to do. And that's how the internship then supports that as you get out there and say, OK, so, so just a very quick story.
When I first went to school for photography, I wanted to be a still life photographer and that's all I wanted to do.
And I didn't really know about all the different other ways of of using photography. And then I got a job working in the studio, you know, a few hours each week and I realized that I really didn't like that lifestyle. I didn't like being inside, I didn't like having to go and you know, work in a very, very, very particular way. And so that internship wasn't it was just got paid a little bit of money, really taught me what I didn't want to do, which is just as important as learning what you do want.
So all department critique. I mentioned critiques before. We have twice a semester. We have all of the students in the major.
Just hang up, work in a large area, and we go around and each student has a critique. And so the critique is not just from the students and they're given year, but also from the students in other years and a number of different faculty at the same time. And so that's a really wonderful community building experience. But when you're younger and you are, and you're allowed to attend them as freshmen too.
You get to learn from other classmate and you get to hear how they talk and you get to hear how they think about what they're making with their work. And that's a a great lesson.
Here is the senior year courses. There's a capstone senior thesis one and two, and the thesis is not just a portfolio of work, but there's a lot of intellectual work that's behind it as well. Where you're in the fall semester, you're making some work trying to figure out exactly what your your thesis is going to consist of and you're doing a lot of research. You're looking at a lot of other photographers and and and video and filmmakers, but you're also looking at philosophers and.
Psychologists and musicians and fiction writers and just about anything can be an influence. And you eventually.
Have all of that information to help you not only make your work, but also write about it, which is important. Words are are another really strong tool for communication. And so it's another thing that you learn is how to to talk about and write about your work and other works. And so that culminates at the end of your spring semester in an exhibition. Here we have senior show and celebration where you get your own space and you.
Curate and present your work and that is both photographs and and video together. Video projects help support that. That's a senior video course where the the teacher and everyone is working towards. How do you on make a motion, something that has motion relate to the still photographs that you make?
Web arts is thinking about how the Internet is is so important today and and how you can actually even use the Internet as a medium of communication. And emerging lens based technologies is a class that helps you prepare the fact that you are going to get out and there's going to be new technologies that you haven't learned in school. When I was in school there was no digital photography and so I had to learn that and I did.
And then something will come along for everyone in the next 10 years. That's just very different. Oh my gosh, the iPhone 14 Pro right now, that is a, I don't know if anybody's heard, it's a 48 megapixel capture camera. Now that is huge. There's only 20 years ago that that.
People, professionals are using one and two MB camera, so, so it's amazing how technology continues to grow and change and so emerging technologies you get to learn about that and professional practices too is a a stepping stone for you to to start thinking about what you're going to do when you graduate. Just as a side note there, we have a number, we have a business minor and so if you want to be in your own business, we have a bunch of courses that you can take.
And you don't have to necessarily minor in it, but a bunch of courses that will help support you being a business owner and so you learn a lot of things about about that.
Julya Nichols
03:28:04 PM
PCA&D Minors: https://pcad.edu/academics/minors/
Speaking of minors, the college has minors and so there are you can be a BFA photography and video major. You can also take a minor where you have 18 credits in in photography. Say you're an illustrator but you're really interested in photography. You can minor.
And then we also have certificates where it's 12 credits. So there's different ways and different venues of being able to to study photography and video here. And I sat on the long one slide for a long time again and that's because here's a a senior video.
By a man who, while he was, was student life that makes someone tick. He became a a weightlifter and that really kind of changed his life. It changed.
It was a way of thinking about himself and thinking about life, and it's amazing to see you now. He actually competes.
Another way that you can use photography is journalism and documentary photography and so you can think of it and and do that.
This is actually a still from a video.
And then this is a photograph that's made with one of those view cameras, the four by 5 inch view camera. So you would think that is something that we had to have a hand hold handheld camera and you have to be very, very quick with it. But no, you can actually use the four by five this way.
And here's a studio photograph.
And this is a self-portrait.
This student got into a little bit of trouble and was very embarrassed. The police picked him up for something and it really affected him. Changed him quite a lot and in very positive and good ways. But he made this video in order to abstractly talk about the experience of being arrested.
And he's very upfront about his experience and what happened and why he was and and at the same time really questioning his choices. And this is an interesting, interesting way to to to talk about it visually.
So we have all kinds of different activities that I'll talk about and one is outside exhibition. So we have in the photo area there is a hallway gallery.
And students can curate shows. We're just about to put up a show that's curated by Lux. And Lux is the student run organization that's connected to the department. And that organization or club it's often called, is for students in all majors, anybody who's interested in learning a little bit about photography. And so right now they are, they did a call for entry with all the students in the school asking for self portraits.
Julya Nichols
03:31:12 PM
PCA&D Clubs: https://pcad.edu/clubs-organizations/
And they'll be putting up the show. There are also shows that are curated by teachers and classes.
But then there are also all these other opportunities. We have shows that are outside of the building. There is a gallery called Core Gallery that's a student run gallery. And then we have yet another gallery besides the main gallery.
That's that's going to be just for student work. And so there's all kinds of opportunities, real life opportunities to be able to to show your work and get it out.
Electives. So here's just a couple of photographs that were made with alternative processes. So we have two different courses where you learn how to make cyanotypes and salt prints. And in the 19th century and photography was invented. The photographer had to make their own light sensitive paper. And so I take a piece of drawing paper and take certain chemicals and cut it with a brush. And so we actually do that.
And people use this method still. It's really interesting. Some other general electives we have as well. We're just starting to have some some fashion photography electives that are really exciting. A lot of students here love fashion photography, and there is a fashion merchandising minor too. That's a beautiful.
Symbiotic connection between photography and the fashion world. And so if you are interested in that type of thing, we've got a great program for you. And there are other courses. There's an international cinema course that's pretty interesting when you watch short international films and learn about it and then you make work.
In relationship to what you've learned and what you've seen, and that doesn't have to be a film itself. That could be a drawing, it could be a painting. Lots of different. And then there's all other kinds of general electives that you can take that are offered from other majors as well.
So unfortunately the pandemic shut down international activities, but this department of photography and video department beforehand was doing some really kind of amazing, amazing work and activities. So this is a photograph where we had eight Korean students come and stay in Lancaster for three days and we had group critiques and workshops and ended up having an.
Exhibition of both the students here and the students from Korea.
This all started with a blog exchange and a former student who's a professor now who lives in Korea. And we started this blog exchange 11 years ago. Now it's no longer, we're no longer doing this one, where we come up with an idea prompts to give students in the international location and students at Pennsylvania College of Art and Design, and they send in photographs that are communicating their thoughts about that.
And then we place them up on a on a blog. And so the one that we're doing now is with students in Abu Dhabi. And one thing that's really amazing is that even though it's a very, very different culture than ours, there are so many similarities, different location, very different physical location. But what I love is that photography shows that there are a lot of similarities between peoples from across the world.
Another traveling connection is China, again closed down because of the pandemic, but this is work from our students here hanging in a international photography festival in China and.
The the festival is attended by Chinese people, but also international audience, and so you get to see work from Australia and from England and from everywhere in between those two places.
We had students travel to China. I traveled there and students traveled there and they their work was there and they got to see all these other work, but they also got to meet a lot of people. And that's one of the things that's great about traveling, is to to really get influenced by the way other people think about photography and and look at it. And so there I am in front of a bunch of international professors talking about how much I care about connecting, even though we're here in Pennsylvania.
Where the students make work and they connect with the outside world, outside of the state, outside of the the country even.
Julya Nichols
03:36:20 PM
Into the darkroom :https://pcad.edu/clubs-organizations/
This is a logo for a student podcast that you can find on YouTube. If you go to the colleges YouTube channel, you can look for into the darkroom which was founded by these two former students.
Julya Nichols
03:36:34 PM
Into the darkroom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BESdvoqfLKo&list=PLYWEPifgYgwgBc-K28OlcjHZ4k_9tucNQ
And that has continued since they've graduated. And so two students interview visiting artists that come here. Sometimes faculty, sometimes they're interviewing artists that are are not on campus and it's really interesting to be able to go and have that experience. So if you if you want to meet people and you want to meet other well known people, you can work on the podcast.
Now here are some photographs of some alumni.
2008 was the first class that graduated with a photography major and now we have changed the photography and video, Pacifico Solano.
Moved to New York afterwards and got a job at the school visual arts and then through that full time job got a master's degree and now he is an international exhibiting artist. His work is in the collection of the Museum of Modern Art and and the the Andy Warhol Museum in Pittsburgh and he's just wonderfully successful as a fine artist. Here's somebody Chelsea Crossett and I have to update this file.
Because she was a campus life coordinator in Chicago, but has recently moved and is the director of Student Life at Rhode Island School of Design. And so the the skills still making photographs on for herself themselves. But but it's using all that communication tools that that they learned here in a job that's related.
Here's a student who owns a commercial photography.
And another student who's a studio manager, that's what job that that you can have where you're running another photographer studio. Again, that's the type of job that's full time and you're not worried about having work every single day because you have a full time job.
This is the photographer that is now photographing for WNBA and NBA basketball teams, OK?
And Shannon is a photographer, is working as a digital artist at that place that I mentioned.
Recently that photographs kitchens and so let's think, is there anything that I would want to still cover here?
I think I've covered it. Julia. I'm.
Awesome. Thank you so much, Eric. That was wonderful. So now we will be going into our Q&A session for the remaining about maybe like 35 minutes that we have. So if you have any questions, feel free to go ahead and put them in the chat. I know that we did get a question come in and the question was seeing all the different works that you showed and seeing the variety of different skill sets that you.
Take in photography. When it comes to your personal works, are you limited to a certain kind of style or are you able to kind of explore and decide which style that you want to go with?
That's a really great question.
When you first are in the major as a sophomore you have these different classes that really push you to try different things and try different ways of using the medium and and the the great variety of ways to use it. By the time you were a senior and this is just for your senior year, we tried to have you hone your work down so it is communicating in a way where the work.
It feels cohesive. That doesn't mean that you have to make the same work for the rest of your life. You have a personal story is I started making short films in 2016, you know, in my 50s. In my early 50s, I started doing something that I had never done before. And now that's what really turns me on and I'm working really hard on that. And and so something that that I was never told when I was an undergraduate student. Is that you? You.
Through the undergraduate experience, you work to hone your your aesthetics and the way that your work looks. But you need to continue to reinvent yourself and keep yourself fresh your entire life and so.
I hope that answers the question. There's a combination right where we really want you to try as many different things. But student comes and says, I never like making portraits. I love making landscapes. You know, with the first assignment is going to be OK, you're going to go out and make some portraits. So be careful what you say, what you tell me.
But, but that's that's my philosophy on it. It's that it's really important to to really try different ways of using it. And you can also work on different bodies of work. And so it's not limited to just one body of work. And so you can go and practice that honing too in different ways.
Perfect. And then the other question which will probably be our final question for today is seeing how close knit your community is and seeing all the wonderful opportunities that you have to build professionalism. Do you and your department also help expand the professionalism outside of peak head or the college for students?
Yes, absolutely. Part of it is through professional practices and and having students research. We have connections with that list of of internships. We have a list that's bigger than that and it depends on the student. Does it just does the student want to go to a metropolis and work in Philly or or New York or does a student want to stay here? We have connections in in both realms and help you to to contact them and hopefully.
Get some work. We also have an incredible program of visiting artists. And so this is not just the photography and video departments. The entire school. We have what are called atrium talks and we have a big atrium at the school and we have international artists from all different fields of art and design come and present their work. When it's somebody that's from the photography and video department, they also come to the department and meet with students.
And sometimes give individual critiques, etcetera. We also sometimes have a visiting artists just come to a classroom rather than having a big campus wide and we also sometimes have virtual visiting artists too. And so that's another way to go and bring the world to pikat so that this is the these two different ways. It's one that helping the student get out there into the world and the other is how do you go and get them on the train and get them to Lancaster too or from down the block.
Do we have some really wonderful businesses, photography practitioners and businesses in this area?
Julya Nichols
03:44:21 PM
admission@pcad.edu
Julya Nichols
03:44:25 PM
ericweeks@pcad.edu
Perfect. All right. Well, thank you so much, Eric, for such a wonderful presentation. I know that this will be super helpful for a lot of people who are watching. Thank you. Everybody who has come in, tuned in or is watching this recording in the future. If there are any questions after this session, please feel free to reach out. I will put the e-mail in the chat so you can reach out to either admissions@keypad.edu or Eric Weeks at Petco.
Yes, please feel free to to e-mail me if you have questions. I'd love to hear from you and hello to everybody in the future.
But yes, so if you're ever interested, please feel free to check out our events that we will be hosting to come and visit our community and meet Eric Weeks in person on some of those. But for now, we will see you later. Thank you all.